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Thursday 5 August 2004 7.01am
Does anyone know what is happening to Caesars in the Old Kent Road?? They have scaffold and hoarding up and have knock down a few walls at the back. Dont remember seeing a site notice for works??
Friday 6 August 2004 9.53am
an estate agent I spoke with last year mentioned it was going to be a club, just a refurbished one.

Guess it depends on whether you believe estate agents...;-)
Friday 6 August 2004 12.12pm
they had a sign on the office block next door saying aquired for an expanded cesars club so perhaps they are extending and refurbishing it??

fraid i am too old to frequent such places now so can only guess!
Friday 6 August 2004 2.25pm
I hope Caesars isn't going to expand. Last year there was a riot at about 1.30am on OK Rd when a huge crowd spilled out of Caesars and went on the rampage. It was quite something.
Thursday 19 August 2004 3.30pm
Heard it was going to be student nurses accomodation from an estate agent....demolished this week ....good bye Caesars......:)
Saturday 28 August 2004 12.12pm
Yep, Caesars is no more - just a pile of rubble. Will the OK Rd ever feel more gentrified?
Saturday 28 August 2004 8.00pm
Was OKR Caesars anything to do with the Streatham Caesars. I met the manager of the latter at a Lambeth licensing committee as he was trying to dodge protesting residents. He told me that the horses above the entrance came from the Spice Girls video. Useless information, but something to know if you ever get stuck in traffic along the A24.
Monday 30 August 2004 3.33am
I sooooo hope it's not going to be an extended Caesars. I live across the rd & have really been enjoying the peace & quiet since it closed. If that's what it's going to be, they kept the planning application very, very quiet! A few student nurses climbing in through their windows at 2.30am I can easily live with, that lot kicking out at 3.30 every Fri & Sat etc & having huge drunken rows outside my bedroom window is a blooming nightmare!
Monday 30 August 2004 11.04am
The irony at the Lambeth planning committee was that I was there to 'protest' about noise nusence from a Lambeth owned building. In 2003 the venue hosted 60-70 events ending at 3.00am, with no apparent supervision, parties regularly spilling out onto the streets, no parking controls, and no consultation with neighbours - though it was clear that a number of residents had tried to speak to the venue's management. We got the licence restricted to midnight, but still suffered events on both Saturday and Sunday night. Apparently all that needs to happen is that they become 'private parties' and Lambeth are landlord or Lambeth as licensing authority cannot do anythng. .

I suspect the manager of Caesars saw some irony in the fact that he is expected to jump through a large number of hoops, yet Lambeth tenants are not even required to clear up the street litter.

If you are troubled by a late night venue you really do need to protest now. There is a new licensing act that goes away from annual licensing and makes it easier to obtain 24 hour licenses. Britain is to be the new Barcelona in the eyes on of DCMS. The more you can provide evidence that restrict any existing license the better chance you will have to object to a new licence for potentially longer hours. Lambeth is consulting on its outline licensing policy at the moment and I suspect Southwark will be doing the same. If Councils are to sucessfully be able to restrict licenses in residential or mixed areas they will need evidence of resident concern. If anyone is worried at the prospect of still later hours from a troublesome venue, it would be worth asking both local Councillors and the Council licensing officer about their likely policy under the new act and how best you can input your concerns.

I don't know if Rabbie or others have anything to add, but it will be a major issue for many residents in Bankside or along the South Bank, as once gained a 6.00am or 24 hour licence will be very hard to overturn and Councils will find it hard to win against smart lawyers from big breweries should any restrictions be tested in court.

This new law really has the potential of changing the face of SE1 as a mixed residential, entertainment and office area, and appears to shift the power into the hands of the big breweries. Perhaps worth asking for a briefing in either South Bank Forum or the Bankside Residents Forum.

Tuesday 31 August 2004 1.09pm
Interesting point, Sarah. Does anyone happen to know the name of the licensing person at Southwark Council? I'd like to send a letter - I actually live on the Old Kent Rd and have a concern about this, like Plum (previous message, above.)

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