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Wednesday 9 October 2002 11.34am
Wednesday 9 October 2002 12.24pm
paul I would have loved a car when my children were small - one at nursery, one at primary, one at secondary, all different times, all different locations....and not everyone is able to 'vote with their feet' Tom...
p.s. is there reliable buses in cumbria? is there a cumbria se1 equivalent?
Wednesday 9 October 2002 2.29pm

Not really - SE1 is unique!! (gush gush vomit vomit). Cumbria is the place to be if you love the outdoors (as to is Northumberland or Lancashire for that matter). Penrith is a market town which got its first curry house last year. It's still very agricultural and if you want a deli you have to go to the local Safeway. It does have 'The Toffee Shop' - it's world famous I'm told and Queenie stops by when she's in town for the Lowther Driving Trials (horses).

The biggest plus is that it's right next door to Ullswater and the countryside behind it and the Scottish border. Lots of things to do outdoors - canoeing, climbing, walking, horse riding, shooting, hunting, fly fishing. Great place really for a holiday. Getting there is pretty difficult just at the momment while they upgrade the railway.

If you want a more cosmopolitan countryside, I'd suggest Somerset, just outside Bristol. Unfortunately, I think everyone else has latched on to the idea and house prices pretty steep in the West Country - but still a lot less than London.

Reads like an advert from the tourist board, I know...
Wednesday 9 October 2002 6.49pm
Sounds like life's pretty simple in Penrith then Tom. If only that were the case in SE1. The subject of congestion IS boring but close to everyone's heart and it won't go away - whether you're a car driver, or a pedestrian just trying to cross the road / not breathe in noxious fumes.

I don't there's a particular infatuation with living in London - to a lot of people it's home or where they work. Why is it so amazing that they want to stay? Fortunately some Londoners are eternally optimistic and believe that things can change, and have no wish to abandon ship - yet!

Someone said the other day, "There's no housing shortage in London, just too many jobs". An interesting view possibly.

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Thursday 10 October 2002 9.52am
Derek Turner from Transport for London will be on BBC London's website from 11am today to take part in a live chat about congestion charging -
Thursday 10 October 2002 10.07am
London is where the jobs are. London is where many of the other people are with whom one might wish to socialise. London is where the economic opportunities are. London is where many of the research sources are, if like me you are doing research.

This is all because of the centripetal forces inherent in the way our modern society is organised. If you don't like it, you should be campaigning for a much more decentralised model of society.

Personally I don't know what people are whingeing about. I'm perfectly happy in London. Even the public transport doesn't seem to me as bad as people on here keep making out. The Northern Line has all new trains. The Jubilee Line has all new trains. The Bakerloo Line runs more often than it used to do. The new buses are nice, and with the new Saver fare at 65p they are cheap. With the new bus lanes they should be quicker. If we can just get rid of all these selfish motorists clogging the place up, so much the better.

Tuesday 22 October 2002 12.57pm
Fk this town. the sooner I leave this hell hole the better. It's ugly, dirty, and expensive.
Tuesday 22 October 2002 1.17pm
...bye then. Have a nice trip!
Tuesday 22 October 2002 4.03pm
and take Paul Temperton with you !

Tuesday 22 October 2002 4.10pm
Please try to keep the discussion friendly, folks.

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