fh wrote:I would like to be able at night to use my normal route back home from the tube station without having to worry about passing a strip club on my way and without having to weave my way through the kind of audiences or hangers on it will probably attract.
easyrecall wrote:The Lilith Report showed a 57% rise in sexual assaults in a set time period in a certain area. It did not show causal links between strip clubs and sexual assault (or give me any hint that the links are there to be proved). However, it strongly inferred it. This is not a good reason to object to a perfectly legal business.
easyrecall wrote:I find that "report" (I'd call it a subjective essay) unhelpful. As a women, I am VERY curious to know if I really am at more danger in an area with a strip club. I want to live in a safer environment, but I'm not sure that encouraging pruience or modesty is a good thing, or that supressing someone else's business (and customers' pleasure) is justified. I need to know WHy people suggest it is, and I suspect my safety (and Muslim peoples' feelings) are being used as excuses for someone else's moral objections. (not meaning you TLMJJ)
Isn't it also a bit evil to MAKE women more scared by promlugating the idea that strip clubs make a street more dangerous, without having proof behind it? though I may yet be shown wrong on that as......
I have written to the mayor's office to ask what reports he referred to when he said "We've also seen studies of other lap dancing clubs which shows a clear relationship between the level of sexual assault, and rape, and general nuisance and intimidation in the area of a lap dancing club, and many women feel intimidated by this". If he includes the Lilith report within them, I despair.
So, for the moment, I cannot see any reason to believe that there is a risk to women should the Rembrandt club open.
I perceive a serious risk to liberty if it is not opened through fear of offence to religious sensibilities. I perceive a triumph of local protest (not necessarily a good thing) if it is prevented from opening because enough local (vocal) people oppose it. (I reckon this is a sSouthwark planning issue and think Peckham people etc. should chip in all they like).
And I just have to vent (to no one in particular)about the Lilith Project.
Eaves Housing For Women (who run The Lilith Project)is a campaigning charity. Each charity (like a business), conducting OR commissioning its own research, will publish results to further its own agenda. Its a no-brainer. Eaves will not produce research to say "we oppose lap-dancing clubs because we belive they commodify women and think this is a root cause of violence but lap dancing clubs, despite being at the vanguard of this activity, don't really seem connected to a statistical increase in violence to women".
In fact, the Lilith Project are refreshingly open in this regard on their website:
"To date several petitioners have used the report to evidence their objections to lap dancing licence applications in their local area, with a high rate of success. Based on this success, the Lilith Project is currently collating research on the 33 London boroughs' responses to the Licensing Act 2003, which came into effect 24th November 2005. This research will be available online in Spring 2006."
Martin Underwood wrote:
How come the Lillith Project concentrated its study on a small section of Camden where the prevalence of strip clubs is low
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