Jerry wrote:If I were an enlightened 21st century gay man or woman believing in equal rights.
Jerry wrote:If I were an enlightened 21st century gay man or woman believing in equal rights I might feel "something that impinges on the conciousness" passing a Mosque, Synagogue or some churches but I don't see Ken trying to move them on.
Jonathan K wrote:
.... considering he is great mates with Dr Qaradawi. Qaradawi has 'interesting' view on gays ...
...Good old Ken!
Martin Underwood wrote:Possel wrote:Jerry wrote:500 in congregation, but 244,000, or more, people in Southwark. Just adding a little to the statistical background.
Your point being...?
I should think the point is obvious: why should the Dean of Southwark's views be viewed as representative when the average congregagtion represents only 0.2% of the borough's population? By that token, we should invite the views of the manager of the local Starbucks , since many people drink there!
Possel wrote:AgreedThe obvious thing is that the statistical analysis is erroroneous. Just because there is only one cathedral in Southwark does not mean that all the christians in the borough worship there, but the cathedral does represent all the Anglicans in the diocese. Assuming that the 244,000 figure is for the residents of the borough of Southwark you should get your figure from the number of worshippers at the Anglican churches throughout the borough.
Possel wrote:Strongly disagree. I think that the point of having different denominations is, erm, that they are different and have decided to set up different systems and people to propagate/air/repeat/celebrate their different brands of faith.Then you could just possibly count the other Christian denominations as well.
Possel wrote:Let's look at this objectively, as you suggest. I am sypathetic to your concern that someone is putting a spin on this in order to support their own views at the expense of fact, so let's do a bit of rough analysis. Figures for attendance at the Cathedral (using a mid-range estimate between the 500 to 1,000 suggested by James above) = 750. Using your mid-range estimate of 15,000, that assumes that the aggregate congregations of the other C of E churches in the diocese is the equivalent of another 19 Cathedrals. Is this likely? It may well be, and I'm waiting for someone to tell me that it is, but in my very unscientific way I think it unlikely.I would be most surprised if the total was less than 10,000 and it could even be more than 20,000..
Possel wrote:Indeed. But getting front page coverage is hardly a lack of representation. My POV is that the C of E are routinely given a disproportionate amount of representation. Some generations ago, they may well have held a position of feudal leadership over the morals of a big percentage of the population. I would contend that this influence has decreased sharply, but that the media will still give Rowan Williams (or similar) headline billing.But even so, is it not a wonderful free country we live in where you can suggest that the views of one sizeable section of the population can be ignored on the grounds of dubious analysis?
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