speakloud wrote:JonathanK if you worked for them do you still have contacts? Maybe, this time, since you are all in agreement that there is not enough police presence on the streets we could have a meeting with the police together.
vicd wrote:So you worked for the police ... that figures - you're inability to see the scale of the problem says it all. It is utterly bleeding obvious that we need a much more visible police presence on our streets. I saw two transport police on a walkabout in Tooley Street the other day. They totally sympathised with me about the problem, unfortunately not their domain. They agreed that having police expect you to join them in their car, looking for the mugger long after he'd disappeared was completely stupid.
I reported local thieves to the police a couple of years back. I had to go to the station and watch an officer write a "report" from what I said. It was excruciating watching his pathetic slowness, writing in childish handwriting (heaven forbid he might actually just type it into a computer) and constantly crossing lines out and starting again. Hopeless. A huge waste of my time. I was told I might be called upon as a witness at one of the borstal boys' trials. Needless to say I never heard a dickeybird about it afterwards.
I suppose you get the police you deserve.
vicd wrote:It's all very well with all this wonderful theory - how careful your ex-colleagues are to record data. Well, news flash: we want a police force that actually prevents crime from happening, rather than using the precious time of vigilant citizens as an excuse for spelling lessons! If his long-winded statement-taking had actually produced some results then I might be a little less damning.
You need a police force that puts police officers on the streets and empowers / educates them to use their loaf (aka common sense) in dealing with events as they happen or even - heaven forbid - BEFORE!
Instead we've got red-tape-bound, desk-bound automatons, umbillically attached to their vans & cars (even helicopters), who have no clue that the most effective piece of "technology" is simply the visible presence of police in a neighbourhood, with the copper(s) becoming familiar and trusted faces.
The amount of valuable information they would get simply from going back on the beat and forging local links would be infinitely more valuable than anything they seem to have from this hands-off approach.
vicd wrote:Oh, do I detect another power-tripping, oversensitive (ex)policeman? How dare you call me patronising and aggressive when, if you could only open your eyes, the correct word would be FRUSTRATED?! Fortunately, your reaction to my comments puts you clearly in the minority. So perhaps you'd like to "have a think" about that, you patronising so-and-so.
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