carmenes82 wrote:You miss the point Jack, people like me and the majority of people on this board live/want to live in SE1 because it has soul, a community, etc. I could have lived in any of the other places you mentioned, but didn't want to because I like the fact that in Bermondsey there is a mixture of people, I know my neighbour and the pretention (as you call it) is confined to only a small part of SE1.
Niall Connolly wrote:Jack
Come back to planet earth.
Where have people been driven out? The Tyers Estate is still there. So is Whites Grounds. No-one was driven out. 20 years ago Bermondsey St was mainly derelict or vacant warehousing. There was little or no economic activity. Now there is. Now there are actually local jobs to replace the thousands that were lost with the closure of the docks.
As I said, you might not like it but its life.
Where would you rather be?
Jack Carter wrote:carmenes82 wrote:You miss the point Jack, people like me and the majority of people on this board live/want to live in SE1 because it has soul, a community, etc. I could have lived in any of the other places you mentioned, but didn't want to because I like the fact that in Bermondsey there is a mixture of people, I know my neighbour and the pretention (as you call it) is confined to only a small part of SE1.
People move into these areas cos it has soul, then push the real locals out, and it becomes just another cold soulless pretentious area. The same has happened to many other places
Bermondsey DOESNT have soul anymore.........it did, up to about 4-5 years ago, but gentrification, multi-culturalism and displacement have ruined the area.
JGarcia wrote:Ah, your true colours Shine through Jack, what you're really ranting about is that Bermondsey is now full of 'multi-culturalism' - by which I take it that you mean non white people, and you state that this is a negative factor.
Of course, everyone would love to back to how London (SE1) used to be in the 'good old days' - meat-headed blokes with short hair, fighting pit-bull dogs, no education, a bigoted view of the world, a general hatred of everything, no money, poor housing etc. Sounds great... ?
What your rant is really about is about being jealous of the new wealth, open minded attitudes, a mixed community that welcomes outsiders and 'locals' alike and people who want to live in nice surroundings and be positive about their lives.
Your view is so common in areas like this, it is fueled by hatred. How anyone can argue that gentrification (this is a positive word, it means nicer surroundings) is bad is clearly missing the point. Also, everything is seen as negative, because you feel hard done by in some way and seek to blame outside forces rather than yourself or your views.
I happen to be new to the area (I'm white by the way, just in case you wondered) and moved in to Bermondsey 3 years ago. I live in a lovely street that has a mixture of 'old' and 'new' in it, black and white, I know all my neighbours and they fully accept me in to their community with no issues, as we do to newer people who have moved in.
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