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Thursday 18 May 2006 11.27am
you need to build a sky scraper to get a flawer stall???
Thursday 18 May 2006 7.37pm
I have to point out that I'm not necessary against the shared
of glass I'm just sceptical about the reasons for building such
a massive building on that location .
and when people say things like we might get a flower stand.

my scepticism grows.

also the flower stall looks OK .but as a rule I don't think
following the empires clothes is a good idea otherwise we could
end up with the

Diana Memorial high street.
Friday 19 May 2006 3.36pm
Jerry wrote:
Any chance of getting asking SLS to look at Tower Bridge Road too. .

Jerry

Southwark Living Streets meets on the third Thursday of every month at the Royal Oak in Tabard Street , usually at 7pm. Next meeting, June 15th, we will start instead with a walk along the Cut, meeting at Emma Cons gardens at 6.30 and progessing to the Royal Oak for 8pm. If you are interested in improving Tower Bridge Road, or other streets in Southwark, we would be very pleased to see you. Our meetings are cheerful and informal, just trying to think of ways to encourage the various authorities to make our streets more liveable.

Best wishes,

Ann
Saturday 20 May 2006 4.14am
That sounds really interesting Ann, wish I could count better (third Thursdays are hard to remember). Any chance of ordering an email reminder??
Saturday 20 May 2006 9.31am
What about improving the arteries to Borough High St.
Going across to sainsburys this morning through the aptly named waterlogged Mermaid Court

And I came back through Lavatory Lane (Angel Place by the Library). 3 blokes asleep outside under
cardboard and rivers of urine to dodge. When it rains it really stinks.
Saturday 20 May 2006 3.38pm
Gritty urban reality? Not sure what to think - while the Homeless need a place to kip and a few puddles (Of Three Gorges proportions) don't deter me and I can deal with things being whiffy - going in the other direction and having a kind of Poundbury/Disneyland perfection isn't what I'd want.
Tuesday 23 May 2006 3.41pm
Report of the meeting with Southwark Living Streets: http://www.livingstreets.org.uk/

The Living Streets organisation aims to be the "Champions of streets and public spaces for people on foot. We work on practical projects to create safe, vibrant and healthy streets for all."

At the meeting it was confirmed that Transport for London administer Borough High Street from the top, near London Bridge Station down to the War Memorial outside the Slug and Lettuce pub. TFL have already drawn up plans to widen the pavements at this end of the High Street, plus plant trees and generally improve the area. The tiny slip road next to the Slug and Lettuce would be pedestrianised. The Shard of Glass will therefore be sited within an improved landscape.

At the end of the meeting the Action Network campaign was discussed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/actionnetwork/G1767

...along with the debate which has been taking place here, on London-se1

The Southwark Living Streets crew have done a 'Community Street Audit' of Borough High Street which shows in detail what is working/not working, what is an asset/a problem.

SLS were very interested in the thoughts and ideas which are coming out of the contributions on the Action Network and on London-se1. I have agreed to feed into SLS - for inclusion in the Community Street Audit - all points raised either here or on The Action Network. The next Southwark Living Streets meeting will be on Thursday 15th June, as noted in an earlier post left in this thread.

In addition, one of the members of SLS will come with me to the meeting on 5th June with Lucy Musgrave and David Knight from The General Public Agency (local architects based in Borough Market, who specialise in regneration).

I feel it is important that the TFL improvements:

1. Retain the local character and history and do not become something corporate.
2. That the middle and lower end of the High Street are considered.
3. SLS suggested that it would seem sensible to pedestrianise the road between St George's Church at the bottom of BHS and the park the other side of the slip road where buses are supposed to park (but I have never seen any buses do that, it is just un-used at the moment). We all agreed that space would be a great asset if it could be either paved or (ideas please) planted and landscaped?

Several people have also confirmed that the derelict shops opposite Maidstone Buildings Mews (Shoefayre etc) are owned by Guys Hospital. People in this discussion are keen to see the shops being used; I agree.

So...your ideas please, put them here between now and say 13th June, so I can make a full list to take back to Southwark Living Streets next meeting on the 15th June.

Lizzie
Jac
Tuesday 23 May 2006 4.29pm
I would love to see the street by st.georges church pedestrianised. I too have never seen a bus parked at the stop. It is also been a lost opurtunity to link borough high street with the Tabard street cycle route. Joining up with this means that cyclist could go down long lane or tabard street and vice versa missing the horrid junction at Borough. Im sure with careful design the two could be amalgamted.
Tuesday 23 May 2006 4.43pm
The road next to St Georges [part of Tabard Street] is used as a bus stand, though not frequently. It is also sometimes used by coaches.

I walk along there almost every day and the most common use is as a short cut/rat run by vehicles caught in traffic on Long Lane. I've lost count of the times I've seen drivers manoevering their vehicles over the edge of the pavement on the crossing island to do a right turn into Tabard from Long Lane, in the hope of saving a few seconds in their quest to get on to Borough High Street. A small modification to the street scape at the pedestrian crossing could stop this dangerous practice, and better signage would hopefully stop vehicles [and bikes] still nipping [illegally] the other way along Tabard from BHS to Long Lane. Make it pedestrian with a cycle lane if possible.
Tuesday 23 May 2006 7.49pm
Jac wrote:
I would love to see the street by st.georges church pedestrianised. I too have never seen a bus parked at the stop. It is also been a lost opurtunity to link borough high street with the Tabard street cycle route. Joining up with this means that cyclist could go down long lane or tabard street and vice versa missing the horrid junction at Borough. Im sure with careful design the two could be amalgamted.

There is a design already prepared that could perhaps be dusted off - it was one of the projects that East Architects put together years ago - but presumably it got overruled by TfL buses.

Apologies for not including this link earlier with the others:
http://www.east.uk.com/content/tab.html
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