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Wednesday 13 December 2006 1.00pm
Thanks, send 'em over - I've run out!


Wednesday 13 December 2006 5.24pm
When I last posted, I begged contributors to concentrate on the issues, refrain from abuse and to listen to the arguements from both sides.

This seems to have fallen on deaf ears particularly in the case of Westofbank and Sarah2. Westofbank had some insults that were specific to me, so I had better say that I am local and have lived locally for more than 10 years and in London for all my life (no don't ask how long but 35 yrs plus.....).

What the emotive posters on this site appear to be unable to grasp is that the scheme can only be opposed on ceratin grounds, and this does not include abusing the schemes supporters and the charity or making heresay allegations to try and discredit others.

What successful opposition will need is clear. It will need understanding of the grounds on which representations can be made (these have been ably detailed by Fred, Loafer and Neil) and a support structure that will unite local opposition wherever such opposition arises.

Neil seems to have grasped this and has posted in ways that alienate no one and will gain understanding however reluctant from those on all sides of this arguement. Likewise Loafer has done his best to inform and to assist all in understanding the issues and positions involved. Fred has also been lucid, funny and fundamentally fair. You don't have to agree with what he says but his position is skilfully argued and presented. The response to this has forced even the middle of the road Loafer to decide that further input is pointless!

Between my earlier posts and today I (in common with Westofbank) have discussed this with other locals. Two points were repeated to me by many I spoke to:

1. Most regard the development of this site as inevitable, know little about the design, but feel that for some locals this issue is now to emotive and so dialogue is dead. Most importantly they have yet to make up their minds!

2. IF those who oppose the development wish to unite local interest they must be keenly aware of local politics, relationships and personalities. Most I spoke to thought Neil's performance at FOAP AGM was impressive and his posts had been informative and balanced. They hoped to learn more from him. Sarah2's local imprint is very different and her reputation as force for division came up time after time.Is she really the person to be the focal point for opposition?

As I said on earlier posts, my position on the development has yet to be decided. Instinctively, I'm propbably against it - but when I look at some in the "Anti Camp", and their inability to unite local people or to get focused seriously on the issues that need to be assessed by any inquiry, I find I incline to support the scheme. If only to stop the mud slinging and abuse!


P.S. Westofbank you still haven't given us a straight answer on your interests - is that why you haven't posted recently!
Wednesday 13 December 2006 5.41pm
Please, please.

I do not "oppose the development" nor do others as far as I know.

I have concerns about these proposals. So did the Planning Committee. So do others.

The process at the moment is not to oppose the development. People do not need to be aware of local politics and personalities. If you want to support Lambeth's defence of their decision, you have a right to write to the Planning Inspector before 4 January. If you want to support the Developers appeal you have the right to do the same.

End of story

I have already posted why I am concerned about these particular proposals.

As Pat says, lets concentrate on the issues.
Wednesday 13 December 2006 5.44pm
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