I agree - live just round the corner from the Hartley and certainly don't see TBR/Grange Road as the frontier town to the riches of Bermondsey Street that you suggest.
I'm a big fan of the Garrison, the Woolpack and Village East (not so much Bermondsey Kitchen which always feels a bit over-priced to me) but of all the gastro pubs in the immediate area, the Hartley just feels to me like the one most patronised by locals, which can only be a good thing.
Indeed, dined at the Hartley last week and was happy as always.
I finally made it to the Hartlet, after being in the area for four years. Just after New Year, on a quiet Sunday. All very pleasant people but I was very disappointed with the Sunday Roast. I had beef and there wasn't much of it or the veg. It was also not particularly hot. Not good value for money.
I have to disagree. It is quiet, but I still think the food is very good indeed. I find myself in there quite a lot. Service is friendly. Free wifi. I also like the Garrison and Bermondsey Kitchen - but I think th Hartley offers better value.
TBR and its environs are no more, or less, safe than most other parts of Bermondsey - the owner of the sandwich bar on Bermondsey street was (tragically) recently stabbed to death and supermarkets won't deliver after 6.00 pm around shad thames. I feel rather sorry for people whose lives are presumably confined to a few streets of their own self imposed ghettos. Are there some particularly sad souls who never leave Bermondsey street in terror of the badlands that lie beyond? (I've lived on Bermondsey street it's not that exciting).
i'm not surprised its closed down, i guess none of you went to the back to see the kitchen t, I usually walk past the kitchen 2-3 times per week and the state of the workers & the kitchen is not very pleasant. they had a nasty bunch of people working there, surprised how people rated the food... out of sight, out of mind!