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If you were only allowed to drink in 1 pub in SE1, which would it be?

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Monday 29 September 2008 3.52pm
Would it be any clearer if I said I meant to say 'Royal Oak' instead of 'Royal Arms'? If not...

Taxi drivers (or posties, as I always assume lots of the people in the Lord Clyde are) aren't working class to my mind, nor are they middle class, but they're nearer the former than the latter. The Royal Oak is a bit posher than the Lord Clyde (which I guess was really my point), but it's still not middle class.

Of course, these definitions are an utterly ridiculous shorthand which have less and less meaning as class structures have 'fluidised' so that we're all either some level of middle class or we're related to the Queen. Blah blah. I think I'm upper lower middle class whose confused about where I'd stand if I bagged a Royal.
Monday 29 September 2008 6.53pm
Oops, yes made the same mistake. I understand where you're coming from. Actually, I realise I haven't been in the Royal Oak and from the recommendations here looks like I should give it a shot.

I think it has a mix of posties and cabbies. A postman that lives in my block drinks there and the cabbie that lives above what used to be the newsagents on the corner until his wife died is often there with friends, who judging from their thighs spend a great deal of time sitting about!

As for my 'label', with a father who was a window cleaner and a mother merely his slave but with a middle class education I'll join you on the upper lower middle.

Mines a Guinness. Cheers.
Monday 29 September 2008 7.20pm
turtmcfly wrote:
The Royal Oak is a bit posher than the Lord Clyde (which I guess was really my point), but it's still not middle class.

From a thread back in 2005:
Who's at the next table in the Royal Oak?
Lang Rabbie wrote:
According to this week's Time Out "Bars & Pubs special" edition although "very much a local's pub, the Oak also exerts its pull right across town to draw a committed clientele of maverick music promoters, small-press publishers, procrastinating crime novelists and sometime pornographers, not to mention highly demanding beer aficionados."

Not sure where you would rank all these in the British class system!
Tuesday 30 September 2008 10.15am
somewhere just below The Queen, obviously, as I hear she's a highly demanding beer aficionado herself.
Tuesday 30 September 2008 10.47am
Drinking: Royal Oak
Hanging around: Rake
Hanging out: Market Porter
Monging out: Woolpack
Eating out: Mayflower (SE16 probably but eating is chating anyway)
Amusing games of pool: Anchor Tap
Wednesday 1 October 2008 8.53pm
Is there one pub that could still do a decent pint of brown and mild ,or good bitter out of the barrel(wooden) standing up on the bar just begging you to order a pint

Monday 6 October 2008 3.34pm
I vote for the poor ol' Victoria, hidden back there on Pages Walk with naught but the mosque to keep her company. But I am fond of underdogs.

Really I'm just bumping this thread because I like the idea of different classes of booze hounds, although how you sort us all out when we've poured ourselves into one big puddle in the gutter, I don't know.

Other honorable mentions to pubs in areas bordering SE1 go to the Angel in Rotherhithe for its cozy upstairs lounge with sweet river view and to the Wibbly Wobbly Pub in Surrey Quays/Greenland Dock for its wibbly wobbliness. (It's the pub that's a barge that's a pub, hooray!)

JRob the High-Class Boozer
Monday 6 October 2008 7.21pm
In SE1 my preferences are for the Royal Oak with those great beers and John P's generous servings of food and the Lord Clyde is a great pub too, and also agree with some contributors that stepping over that border into Rotherhithe/SE16 the Angel and Mayflower are fantastic with their river terraces.
Tuesday 7 October 2008 11.08pm
JRob, you may be a high class boozer but you do not appear very discerning if you enjoy The Angel.
Not being a beer person I cannot comment on their beers, but as a vodka drinker my first choice is Absolut, then Stolychnya, failing that I'll settle for Smirnoff.
A pub where everything from water to whisky through wine and mixers is all the same brand is not my idea of a well rounded establishment.
Not been in it for years now, but The Ship in Borough Rd. was always a decent place.
Wednesday 8 October 2008 2.15pm
Tom Pepper wrote:
JRob, you may be a high class boozer but you do not appear very discerning if you enjoy The Angel.

Certainly not. I'll allow any kind of swill to go sloshing down the ol' boozehole. But I'm very picky about the environs when I do it.

Really though, I've only had beer there and like the Samuel Smith beers just fine so I wouldn't have any idea what their selection of spirits is like. I've found British bars and pubs don't tend to mix such great cocktails so I just stick to beer and if I want cocktails I can make them myself at home. Absolut? Bleah! I'm a Grey Goose girl.
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