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Thursday 4 December 2003 11.25am
Last night, I overheard a woman in Kensington say to her child "Darling, don't call him Santa Claus, say Father Christmas instead."

I was astonished and saddened.

So Santa is a bit pikey now is he?

Equally, someone at my work said, "Oh No, we don't put 'tinsel' on the Christmas tree!"

What is that all about?
Thursday 4 December 2003 11.40am
No Tinsel? at Christmas....:-( our family has always used Father Christmas,....was he called Santa in the forties?

but no glitter... no baubles....Big Dave your right - it is sad..

Designer Christmas Trees - purchased complete with baubles, bows, lights etc.,

no involvement at Christmas for the children to add their home made decorations, no empty matchbox wrapped in gold paper with sequins stuck on, no salt dough figures made loveingly and painted in various shapes.....

I'm off agin.....

Thursday 4 December 2003 12.06pm
I know someone who has too much money and gets "a woman in" to do her trees (note the plural)

When I asked her why she doesn't get her kids to do them (3 & 5 yrs) or at least do the bottom bits, she said they don't achieve "that look" that the interiors woman manages.... very sad.

Being brought by elderly grandparents on a remote farm, we had to make everything... that was the fun of it. Putting the bale of straw out for the reindeers. It's a long way from Woolworths in South London on a Saturday afternoon.

It's times like this I ask myself why I live in London.
Thursday 4 December 2003 12.13pm
But, Big Dave, maybe the woman was telling her child to use the term Father Christmas rather than Santa Claus not because she thought it was posher, but because she feels Santa Claus is a more American term?
Thursday 4 December 2003 12.27pm
You could have a point, but surely it boils down to a snobbery more than anything. I grew up using Santa Claus (isn't that the proper name - German?) and I'm sure that my Christmasses were no less magical for doing so.
Saturday 6 December 2003 7.27pm
My mum used to tell me that he was Father Christmas if he was wearing a long red dressing-gown-type outfit, but Santa Claus if he was wearing red jacket & trousers. Don't know which is posher.

Anyway, my mum also told me about not letting nasty strange men into the house, so I didn't fancy him coming down my chimney, so I set a booby trap (drawing pins, mousetrap, glue on floor). Whather Father Christmas or Santa Claus, he swears horribly in a very unposh way.
Sunday 7 December 2003 10.14am
Taking my five year old to see Father Christmas yesterday was magical. Modern kids do seem to be more savvy than we were and mine is as confident as any. But she was silent when we went into Santa's grotto. The first question 'have you been a good girl today?' got a small nod. 'Have you been a good girl this year?' got a tentative look at me then a second nod. By then she was completely overwhelmed and could not find the words to tell him what she wanted for Christmas.

Don't care if he is posh or not. He's a good sort.
Sunday 7 December 2003 7.52pm
I'd go with the distaste for all things American as the more likely reason.

Of course, Father Christmas is actually a good socialist - access to his grotto was in the egalitarian Greater Nottingham Co-operative Society's department store when I was a lad. No expense was spared by the elves of the co-operative in constructing grottos on the moon and under the sea. All this - and the divvi too!

The posh santas in Harrods, Hamleys etc. are vile capitalist impostors!
Monday 8 December 2003 12.16am
I thought you were Scottish? But then I used to think Father Christmas was real.

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Monday 8 December 2003 1.39pm
Don't think it matters what he is called most kids seem quite happy to use both. Some places now even have a Mother Christmas!
With regads to Christmas trees took my little one (who is 3) to B & Q's yesterday to buy a tree then as a family we spent an hour putting decorations on it and lights and had a really good time together.
I feel sorry for someone who misses out on the fun which is all part of the christmas spirit because they are concerned with the way it "looks" (my tree is listing and looks like an explosion in a bauble and tinsel factory!)

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